{"id":1376,"date":"2010-07-18T10:32:25","date_gmt":"2010-07-18T15:32:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/?p=1376"},"modified":"2010-07-18T10:32:25","modified_gmt":"2010-07-18T15:32:25","slug":"first-failed-print-lol","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/archives\/1376","title":{"rendered":"First (failed) Print!!! LOL!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>IT&#8217;S PRINTING!!! Well, it&#8217;s failing spectacularly at printing, but it has extruded plastic all on its own while trying to make a mini-mug (a little shot glass that I can toast success with). Instead it&#8217;s a glob of plastic that only a RepRap parent could love. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>There is video of that a few photos\/videos down from here, but as usual I&#8217;ll show what led up to that first.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d only had two times last week that I could play with my RepRap and I was having problems getting it to fully extrude on its own. The stepper motor seemed very weak..<\/p>\n<p>Here it was, thinking it was printing a mini-mug:<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/9uxUFLoKj3Q&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><\/object><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a video showing the extruder appearing extremely weak, unable to push out plastic.<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/Hogu2f6Ik6E&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><\/object><\/p>\n<p>Then I started getting much closer just by adjusting the motor mounting <em>while it was trying to extrude<\/em>, so I could see where it could grip. I still wasn&#8217;t there, but I was closer:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_025AFF84-E44E-4C80-BC98-1F3D60A8879F.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_025AFF84-E44E-4C80-BC98-1F3D60A8879F-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"l_2048_1536_025AFF84-E44E-4C80-BC98-1F3D60A8879F.jpeg\" width=\"450\" height=\"337\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1389\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>3-d cross-your-eyes picture of the plastic in the extruder (click for unscaled picture, which works better):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_480_320_FA34242E-3788-49A0-A2D5-D5BE226236F7.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_480_320_FA34242E-3788-49A0-A2D5-D5BE226236F7.jpeg\" alt=\"\" title=\"l_480_320_FA34242E-3788-49A0-A2D5-D5BE226236F7.jpeg\" width=\"480\" height=\"320\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1390\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_480_320_FA34242E-3788-49A0-A2D5-D5BE226236F7.jpeg 480w, https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_480_320_FA34242E-3788-49A0-A2D5-D5BE226236F7-300x200.jpeg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><object width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/CQ3AUyyKbjM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><\/object><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d <A HREF=\"http:\/\/forums.reprap.org\/read.php?151,51698\" TARGET=\"_blank\">posted<\/A> to the reprap forum about my weak extruder problem and Wade said he&#8217;d had the same problem, and suggested cranking up the current on the stepper motor and slowing the extrusion speed.  I had already tried turning the trimpot on the extruder board with no success, and remembered reading on the extruder controller page that the trimpot wasn&#8217;t currently used.<\/p>\n<p>It turns out that it can be used by the FiveD firmware if you issue the right <A HREF=\"http:\/\/reprap.org\/wiki\/MCodeReference\" TARGET=\"_blank\">&#8220;M&#8221; command<\/A> (M113). M113 without any arguments causes the trimpot to be read right then. I&#8217;d you supply an argument, though, you can specify a value right there in the gcode file.<\/p>\n<p>That revelation led to one long uneventful video that I&#8217;ll spare you from, and then&#8230;. to THIS:<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/MHC-ckzvQoA&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><\/object><\/p>\n<p><object width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/E8N7p9dPTDY&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><\/object><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_CD07DFF5-920B-4117-BF48-30902134FD10.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_CD07DFF5-920B-4117-BF48-30902134FD10-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"l_2048_1536_CD07DFF5-920B-4117-BF48-30902134FD10.jpeg\" width=\"450\" height=\"337\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1393\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_DC1E6F85-D7DF-4DFA-BCF9-0D0B45F9CFC9.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_DC1E6F85-D7DF-4DFA-BCF9-0D0B45F9CFC9-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"l_2048_1536_DC1E6F85-D7DF-4DFA-BCF9-0D0B45F9CFC9.jpeg\" width=\"450\" height=\"337\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1394\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_55F683A8-A7AE-40AB-A5C3-0878C17C5C03.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_55F683A8-A7AE-40AB-A5C3-0878C17C5C03-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"l_2048_1536_55F683A8-A7AE-40AB-A5C3-0878C17C5C03.jpeg\" width=\"450\" height=\"337\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1395\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><object width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/Lah9f1Ron9M&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><\/object><\/p>\n<p><object width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/hk5FwT0J628&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><\/object><\/p>\n<p>Here is my RepRap&#8217;s first printed attempt at making a minimug:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_2991EAFD-E0C6-4F47-A6A4-9C0F8C5BE6E8.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_2991EAFD-E0C6-4F47-A6A4-9C0F8C5BE6E8-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"l_2048_1536_2991EAFD-E0C6-4F47-A6A4-9C0F8C5BE6E8.jpeg\" width=\"450\" height=\"337\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1397\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_D467500F-6220-43C1-9F34-0C15A8606A31.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_D467500F-6220-43C1-9F34-0C15A8606A31-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"l_2048_1536_D467500F-6220-43C1-9F34-0C15A8606A31.jpeg\" width=\"450\" height=\"337\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1398\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><object width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/Z7nZH3sZxG0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><\/object><\/p>\n<p>Here is the entire removed top bed with the failed print:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_8CEB6443-73F7-469C-B4C1-3391A38E027F.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_8CEB6443-73F7-469C-B4C1-3391A38E027F-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"l_2048_1536_8CEB6443-73F7-469C-B4C1-3391A38E027F.jpeg\" width=\"450\" height=\"337\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1399\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And here are two cross-eyed 3d pictures of that print (click for unscaled pictures which again work better):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_480_320_297AB161-EB10-4728-AF56-B978C1D3DC58.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_480_320_297AB161-EB10-4728-AF56-B978C1D3DC58.jpeg\" alt=\"\" title=\"l_480_320_297AB161-EB10-4728-AF56-B978C1D3DC58.jpeg\" width=\"480\" height=\"320\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1401\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_480_320_297AB161-EB10-4728-AF56-B978C1D3DC58.jpeg 480w, https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_480_320_297AB161-EB10-4728-AF56-B978C1D3DC58-300x200.jpeg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_480_320_E487457A-18BE-4794-9569-3B3A199ED9E5.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_480_320_E487457A-18BE-4794-9569-3B3A199ED9E5.jpeg\" alt=\"\" title=\"l_480_320_E487457A-18BE-4794-9569-3B3A199ED9E5.jpeg\" width=\"480\" height=\"320\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1402\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_480_320_E487457A-18BE-4794-9569-3B3A199ED9E5.jpeg 480w, https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_480_320_E487457A-18BE-4794-9569-3B3A199ED9E5-300x200.jpeg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>When peeling it off of the bed it was interesting to see that the bottom layer that was really flat (I think I trimmed my z opto flag about 0.5mm too short) actually stuck together, despite the thrashing that the failed build did to the rest:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_3F79C4B2-0AE5-4370-8486-AD43BA177618.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/l_2048_1536_3F79C4B2-0AE5-4370-8486-AD43BA177618-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"l_2048_1536_3F79C4B2-0AE5-4370-8486-AD43BA177618.jpeg\" width=\"450\" height=\"337\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1403\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><object width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/dsRiTFBAXxM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><\/object><\/p>\n<p>So now I think I just have to find the right combination of: a) the correct spacing between the stepper and the bearing, b) the right PWM setting to use, and c) the extruder speed. Not sure on how exactly to change c yet.. Changing the gcode directly probably affects the rest of the build &#8211; when I was using skeinforge on the Makerbot I had to change something pre-rendering. Eh, we&#8217;ll see.<\/p>\n<p>BUT NOW, I&#8217;M PRINTING!!! Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now to just get something to print correctly&#8230; \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>IT&#8217;S PRINTING!!! Well, it&#8217;s failing spectacularly at printing, but it has extruded plastic all on its own while trying to make a mini-mug (a little shot glass that I can toast success with). Instead it&#8217;s a glob of plastic that &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/archives\/1376\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1376","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-myreprap"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1376","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1376"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1376\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1376"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1376"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.keegan.org\/reprapblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1376"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}